Hudson River State Hospital
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Welcome to the Hudson River State Hospital located in the United States in Poughkeepsie, New York. This gigantic hospital has overlooked the Hudson River for 136 years since its initial construction in 1871. The various hospital buildings were constructed and belong to the famous Kirkbride architectural order (read more on this excellent website).
The hospital was divided into two wings, for male and female patients, with an administration section located in the center. The male wing was much larger than the respective female wing. This was caused by the number of patients being unequal between the sexes (see the sky view from the hospital using the link above).
The beauty of the decay was unbelievable in this hospital. Most of the original constructions had been preserved.
Future renovation construction of the hospital were planned long ago. A fire, caused by lightning, burned the male wing in June 2007. As of the date of this article, the fate of Hudson Psyche Center remains unknown.
Hopefully this awesome Kirkbride will be saved. The United States is certainly not Europe and listing historical buildings as monuments might not be enough to protect them…
Archive documents dated between 1891 and 1918 (click on a thumbnail to enlarge):
Special thanks to Dr. Bob for sharing the old postcards.
Reference for the scanned documents: Handbook of the State Hospital Commission and the Hospitals for the Insane, 1918, E.S.Graney.
Hey James email me!! Af1king845@yahoo.com. Trying to get a group together soon!
contact me on here if you want a tour
If anyone has questions on getting in or need a tour guide email me. email@example.com been here hundreds of time
No we were caught once and haven't been back since. I have no idea what they were thinking...they called for backup and wouldn't allow us to leave. We were respectful and they still wanted to prove a point. 3 cop cars came and none of them wanted anything to do with it. The MHP called their supervisor as backup and he insisted on pressing charges. I made the turn onto the main road by a gas station not sure what street that is and parked the car where there was a chained up gate. Put the flashers on and went under the fence. Didn't try to hide the car because we weren't causing damage or stealing. Yes all the hassle for trespassing. We live in the bronx and had to drive back up numerous times for court and to meet with a public defender/lawyers. The prosecutors did care...from the way they acted we committed 10 felonies. Looking back i guess it pays to be sneaky and run when approached lol sometimes honesty isn't the way to go!
Hey, BX1983, you got caught twice or are you talking about the last time in November? i'm curious to know what it is exactly the MHP? think they're doing when they catch you and force the reluctant police to file charges. you parked at the entrance around route 9? All that hassle for trespassing, what were the prosecutors like? did they even really care?
Sorry haven't been on this website in a while....to answer your questions...all 4 of us were arrested....The local cops did not want to take us in but the mental health security? insisted on pressing charges...not happy!! They caught us because we didn't try to hide and sneak it, we double parked the car at the entrance and left the flashers on lol. The cops told us some pretty creeped out stories on the way to the jail. As for what happened...they took us to the local jail...we sat there about 4 hours while they processed us all. We had to go to court 3 times and ended up paying fines of $300- $400 each. Be careful not to get caught!!
Oja- absolutely no offense taken, just pointing out the correct name. If you go, be very careful since it's not only illegal, but VERY DANGEROUS. Stay safe.
sorry if it appeared if i was calling anyone out. Jeanne, you gave me plenty of reason to believe that the Hillcrest that's up on the hill is the only Hillcrest standing and may be the only Hillcrest that ever stood seeing as how neither Kathy nor Wardy have responded to my evidence or inquiries.
I haven't been up there in a few months because i've been so busy. Im gearing up for my last few trips though. I haven't really gotten a chance to explore Ryon Hall and the Kirkbride. Breaks my heart to know the place has fallen into such disrepair and every year that passes it's only getting worse. I want to see all that i can before it's too late. Sigh. Love this location.
Oja- (I think you mean Kathy nor Wardy?) I've been checking back too, and am disappointed also that after all of their postings stating that they were so sure about the Hillcrest location, (and how wrong they think I am) ever since I have given more than ample proof, they have not responded. I wish they would either supply some evidence, or just admit they made a mistake.
I drove past the old place on my way to an Alumni meeting recently- seems to get worse and worse.
I'm a little disappointed that i haven't recieved a response from Jeanne nor Wardy in regards to this Hillcrest thing. i just wanna get this debate all sorted out because the longer i wait, the more i start to wonder about certain people and certain things.
Alright, thank you Jeanne, I'm looking at the map right now and the building looks like the one in the picture and I found it right where I suspected it would be. However, now I am confused by Wardy and Kathy's previous comments regarding its 'old' location. I need some clarification from them.
Kathy, you're saying the original Hillcrest was demolished. But in your book you described a 10-15 minute drive up the hill to Hillcrest. I'm looking at the map and you would have to head east along paint shop road to get up the hill and I don't see any other breaks along the road that would have accommodated a building that isn't there anymore.
Wardy, you're in contact with Kathy and you're describing a golf course on the north side of the kirkbride. The short female wing is on the north side and right beyond that are trees and then a big empty space and then more trees and then Albany Post Road. I'll need to skim through Kathy's book some more but it couldn't be on that north side because the road is really short and doesn't equate to a 10-15 min ride, more like a 2-5 minute ride...
I just need clarification, this Hillcrest thing is getting on my damn nerves. Wardy, what did you see that gave you proof and confirmation it was there?
Oja -That photo absolutely is Hillcrest at Hudson River. If you go to bingmaps.com and check out the bird's eye view on Ryan Drive between Ryan and Cheney Drive, you can clearly see the building and all of the details shown in the picture. Hillcrest is the first of the long buildings. This is the "upper campus". Kathy is mistaken that Hillcrest was on the Main Campus. There are also more postings of old photos of Hudson River State Hospital being added to the Alumni Website which is hrshnursesalumni.wordpress.com if anyone is interested.
Is this the Hillcrest school Kathy wrote about?
Thinking about going too. Want to do a photoshoot there, but I am really anxious in regards to the security.
HRSH is at the beginning of the film 'Greystone Park', shots of the kirkbride at the very beginning. This movie is on Netflix. They're supposed to be checking out Greystone but show HRSH.
Hey guys just letting you know I just completed two series of video's on YouTube. One is on Kings Park and one is on Hudson in HD. You can find them by searching the username "bikercrze1" or just follow either of these links to the playlists. I have two series of Kings Park but one is older.
Hudson River State Hospital:
Kings Park Psychiatric Center Series 1
Kings Park Psychiatric Center Series 2
Kathy (and Wardy)- In your book (on pages 74-75), you said the ride was about 15 mins from the Main building to Hillcrest which is in the way back of the property. That is correct. Also, I also have a map of the grounds- I can positively identify 121 of the buildings.(My map was updated in the early 1980's.) You can also read this on web.lemoyne.edu. I know names mean nothing, since anyone can write anything, but also you can check out my HRSH Facebook page if you want to. It is under "Hudson River State Hospital School of Nursing (HR Psychiatric Center)". The map with the key are posted there. Also, if you click on the map on this site, and follow Hudson View Drive to Paint Shop Road to West Cottage Road to Cheney Drive to Snow Terrace, you will see Hillcrest House (as it is now called) partway up the hill. Also check out: www.hudsonriverhousing.org The address is listed on the sidebar of that website too. I am not trying to be difficult, but just don't want misinformation to be on the web. I also checked with the president of the HRSH Alumni Association who has the original plans for the property at the HRSH museum, and she also confirmed for me that this is the one and only Hillcrest school site. Oja- thanks so much for the links.
Whos been here lately?! hows security and everything else looking?? any more graffiti destroying this great place?? Havent been there in about 4 months!crappy weather. Hope to hear from you!!!
Wardy if u get the chance u should send me those videos I never got to watch all of them so if u get the chance man I'd love to see the rest of them.. Thanks man
Ok, but you first.
Everyone here kill yourselves.
I took my youtube down Because people were learning to much from them and then calling me a cop lolol, then they were going and destroying the places I was showing!. I still have all of my videos and them some on my flash drive.... I have a strong love for this place and its history.....
Hillcrest really is on the other side of route 9g, and is a homeless shelter, but it is run by the county and not the state. If you go up Cottage Rd to Cheney Drive, it's right up there. There are still a few buildings up in that area that were part of Hudson River. I just looked, and you can see it on the map on this page.
Wardy where did all your YouTube videos go ? Did u remove them .? I enjoyed watching them
I lost your E-mail..you can ,mail me @ firstname.lastname@example.org.. HOPE TO HERE FROM YOU SOON.... this page is still full of people that know everything!!!!! I would like one of your books that was not fixed with your autographed lol "I SEE YOU"
Hey Wardy, how you doin? Of course you are right, and I appreciate your worrying about my anonymity, no need. Jeanne from the class of 74 wouldn't know since Hillcrest was closed before she graduated. After selling a number of copies, someone finally told me the errors in the printing so if you would like, I will send you an autographed copy of the new and improved book. You still have my email addy, don't you? If you feel more secure going by Ebay, it's listed there as well.
my friend and i are going there today! has anyone caught anything paranormal there ?? and how's the security situation??
Went there tonight just before 6 PM, walked up toward Ryon Hall. Turned to leave, saw somebody walking with something on their head, possibly night vision. We said hey and they dropped to the ground. If you think this is you, email me, I would like to talk to you. Tell us what we said to you before we left. email: email@example.com
Was pretty sketchy seeing someone else in the pitch black.
No disrespest, not for nothing Jeanne But I am sorry I think you are wrong sorry........ I don't need to prove anything I told you how I know where it was.
Just prove what you are saying it true.. I will ay say sorry for being wrong... till then. that place is gone!!! and I have proof...
I JUS WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!
names mean nothig on here
Sorry this took so long. I heard the same thing about Hillcrest being repurposed. I also have Kathy's book 'Turning 15 in the Loony Bin'. Anyway. Here's the video from a documentary on mental illness where Hudson River State Hospital was still in operation. Skip to 13:00 for the grounds and some patients
And from 1991, same documentary series, shows j. Miller walking through an abandoned section of the wards and opening a door to reveal a part still in operation. Shocking.
Hillcrest was actually "Hillcrest School for Children". It was a building that housed and schooled children up to 16 years of age. It was NOT near the top of the golf course off the Kirkbride. The building still stands today, and is now a homeless shelter. It is on the upper campus which is on the other side of route 9G. The campus safety building is on the same street. They may still patrol the main grounds or not, I don't know, but they DO patrol the upper campus area. The few buildings up there are still open in various capacities, and are still owned and run by the state. It's possible that the company that bought the Main campus is paying for the security to do rounds there too. I don't know. Having been to nursing school there, I am sure that is where Hillcrest is/was. The book that is referred to is "Turning 15 in the Loony Bin" by Kathy L . Hiatt. Oja- would you please post that link when you can? Thanks.
Hillcrest is gone!!!! you have no idea what you are talking about...
Hillcrest was on the top of the golf course on the North side of the Kirkbride off the front!!!!! I know some one who went there and wrote a book, she showed me on a map and then I went there... Sorry man you can not get more of soiled source then that!! I have so much info on Hillcrest...
KR1... YOU ROOKIE!!! YOU NEED DO SIT BACK AND DO SOME MORE BOOK WORK, TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE IN THE WRONG PLACE LOLOLOL O WELL I GUESS THIS IS WHY YOU START THINGS!!!! YOUR JUST JEALOUS LOLOL its ok people are who they are.......
Good ol Wardy! Funny how you resurface when so much craziness is going on up at hudson! Coincidental i think not. You've always been a suspicious fellow and if everyone would take the time to scroll down through all the old comments they'd see what kind of person you are, my advice to everyone on here don't share any info with this kid and be mindful (as you always should!) because these realtors and security groups do read through these forums and thats how they find out about entry points and info about these locations then of course you have people like wardy who have no problem sharing info with these hick caretakers just to gain his own access. There is no little honda/security car and never has been its just town cops, state troopers and caretakers. And Oja Hillcrest is now in use its an old school on violet ave. Theres been alot of scrappers up here lately and I advise anyone who comes across them either bust em in the face or hop out and call the cops yourself because these dirtbags need to be stopped as hudson from last year to now has been damaged significantly.
Where is Hillcrest school?
Our birthdays are so close Wardy. I was up there in Halloween but my birthday was 11/01/12. 10 days apart but I wonder who's older?
Oh, yeah Jeanne, I post the link, just gotta get to a computer.
How many morgues are up their.I know of the one up in back behind Kirkbride, but is there any other ones like in Ryon Hall or Chenney.THX
Where is the plaque commemorating the veterans? I'm guessing on the American Legion building?
Where can I find the video of the Kirkbride when it was open? I would love to see it. I "worked" there 1972-1974 during nursing school. I've looked at everything I can find on youtube, and couldn't find it there or in a Google search. Would really appreciate it. Thanks.
DAM BX1983, that sucks. I have herd of many people ggetting caught BUT NOT TO MANY getting booked..The Last time I went was on my birthday 11-11-12. I was going home ridding my bike, and sitting in the parking lot by ryon hall and channy was THE SECURITY!!! in a little Honda civic!!! It said security in the front window and the back.... it was a young guy in his early to mid thirties... I went over to him, as he was coming for me as well, he told me that he was sitting there because he heard loud noises of people smashing things,"""I HATE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT!!!!"". Well I heard them as well and that is why I was I TOLD HIM THE DIRECTION OF THE NOISE!!!!! well where exactly I heard it,, In the ROOKIE section lol. I told him I lived on 9g and was passing through to get to the river and we went our separate ways..( O I found some things down there as well).. The other morgue, well i don't want to talk about it!!!! lets just say IT IS DESTROYED!!! IT is all graffiti up like crazy((( ALL OLD STUFF WELL MOST OF IT)) I cant believe people don't know more about it lol..............
I know there are two plaques. Well I think there are. There is one giving administration historic landmark designation and the other for commemorating veterans. I can't believe someone stole the landmark designation but I'm wondering when they noticed it was gone. I don't want to make it seem like the city doesn't really care but they've let what's left get so bad and they seem more interested in tearing things down than fixing. They could make money by giving tours too and history. Anyway, I know it's far fetched I just want the place to be preserved. Helm anyone see that video of the kirkbride when it was actually open with patients?
"The National Historic Landmark designation plaque which until recently had adorned the Administration Building, has been stolen. Anyone with information pertaining to the theft of this plaque is urged to contact us. A cash reward will be given to anyone who provides information leading to the return of the plaque. Thank you."
It's sad enough that HRSH is my Alma Mater and dying a slow death anyway, but I am so angry about this. It was probably taken for scrap. So much damage has been to this place, and it ruins things for everyone. I hope someone turns in the thief, and gets a nice reward. And, sad to say, I hope the thief suffers!!!
WARDY!!! What's up!?
Went up there a few weeks ago and everything was pretty much accessible minus Ryon Hall. Burned the daylight showing my friends around and finally got into the morgue. The only freaky thing was that while we were in the morgue a white pickup truck drove by outside but other than that we didn't encounter any patrols or anything. My first time being there during the day in a long time and it's become real clear where most of the access points are. Got into the what was left of the male backward but didn't really want to explore it until I saw access to the female ward and it was too darn late in the day. I think I know where that freaky room in the tunnels is and it'll be my target next time I get up there. Sucks that BX1983 got picked up by the police, I think it's so petty they want to arrest and book people for their curiosity but in all fairness we are breaking the law. How did you guys get caught? By the Grace of God I am always fortunate to just miss patrols. I didn't want to believe they were actually arresting people but that really sucks. We take a risk and we are trespassing but I always do it with respect and pure curiosity... And some thrill. Lets not forget that the authorities are protecting us from the inherent danger and by doing what they're doing they are protecting the town and preserving what is left of this amazingly alluring relic. Plus they're only doing their jobs. What happened after they booked you? Do you pay a fine and leave? Sit in jail? I wonder if they ever caught the scrappers. Most of the copper is stripped out of the place.
Be careful....went back for the second time and got picked up by the Mental Health Police...didn't know that they are really just security guards so we didn't try to run. We were honest and upfront...we didn't steal anything. They looked through our photos and then called the Town of Poughkeepsie police who against there wishes booked us..Be careful they were all over the place looking for people!
I think ive been in that room before .Do you get to that room from the low ceiling tunnel off the main tunnels and it leads up to the basement of another building where this room is .Did it have a metal door that locked from the inside and was about a 8x10 room with electrical wires coming out of the wall and floor through a concrete slab that may have had a chair bolted their and also had a drain in the center of the room .Very strange room not sure what it was used for.
i know of the morgue up behind the kirkbride in the back,but where is the other morgue at.any in Ryon Hall or Cheney.
YAAAA i took all my videos down from my youtube.. It seems that all you fake people were looking at my videos and IT WAS HELPING EVERYONE!! I dont want to help just anyone.... people have said I am cop!!!! lolol you guys are shot lol.. I, along with about 2 other people are some of the only ones (give or take) who know every way in and every way out and that is a fact!!!!!! and YES THERE IS A MORGUE ON THE 2ND FLOOR!!! THERE ARE 2 MORGUES!!! well i just stoped by to see nothing has changed
Whats up kr1-845 & oja WHATS UP!!!!!!
Spent years exploring there in the 80's From creepy gear and rooms where they treated the patients in the late 1800's to hanging dead cats in an attic. The place was and may be still EPIC. I hear the last bit of it closed so its all done. new bldgs to check out. Anyway I lived there so I want to point out a HUGE BUNKER that goes towards and I believe under the grounds. Its the earstern most portion of the grounds on the west side of the lake. Its just 400 yards west of the BASEBALL FIELDS right b4 BIRCHER Ave in that Clear spot with road to it. That bunker always freaked me out, never got in. A CIA looking dude asked me if I wanted to go in once, and look around but I was wise enough to say hell no and be on my way. Near the entrance to the baseball fields were 4 round underground silos About 15 feet deep. Graffiti'd them up and partied in them. They were covered over when the fields were redone. Would be interesting to see what people would think if they were ever uncovered. LoL Anyways a secret scoop from one who grew up, lived and partied right there. Always was rumors of a large underground complex there. And the Bunker is right there and the hospital is on top of the hill tops. Also alot of cool old roads that havnt been used in 50+ years. Alot of them were blocked but we would ride our 3 wheelers and dirt bikes in. Was awesome escape routs and good for partys.
whent up there a few days ago. iv been there many many times befor. there hasent been any cops up there for a while tho so if your looking to go go soon .theres the tunels that leed right up to ryon hall and if you take yoyr first right in the tunnels your going to come to the electric shock tretment room.tunels located behind the main hospotal by the basket ball corts across the roud...hope this helped.
went yesterday. could not believe how big the place is. easy access through windows on ground floors or quite a few side doors were open. we parked @ the Home Depot & there is an easy trail in the back that was less then 5 minutes to the buildings. came across 2 guys in the administration building stripping copper pipes. stayed clear of them but came across many others just exploring the grounds. was confronted by the cops but was let go w/ a verbal warning as we had not been in any buildings. we were in plenty of buildings just not caught in one. was a lot of fun & can't wait to return.
Was there for the first time in a long time during daylight and I have to ask, was the kirkbride always in such a sorry shape? I'm not referring to the burned out shell of the male ward but the administration and female ward itself. I noticed windows smashed out in administration and stuff. This is disheartening because the last thing i would want is for further exposure to the elements for the already deteriorating kirkbride. Sigh. Things don't look so well for this landmark, it seems more likely it will be completely demolished because no one cares anymore. Breaks my heart but vandals are destroying everything and it would cost more money than it's worth to preserve. So sad. Plus i see the pipe robbers are making short work of Cheney. All the radiators are gone, so sad.
came across some pics on reddit today, thought people would be interested
Firstly you should find your own username as i have been using this one for some time on here, and secondly if your gonna be any type of "explorer" or whatever it is you noobs are callin it these days then learn to do your own research. Its web stupidity that helps these pigs catch on to what we are all trying to do so i suggest a better method than just blurting descriptive details out on here would be to email one another. Despite what everyone may think these caretakers,security etc do read through these boards.
went back yesterday for a great visit! found lots of interest things in there including a hugeee locked safe. We also found fresh paint in there,apparently "shook" is gone or dead or whatever,only to be procedded by "Evol" who ive seen more and more around the hudson valley,anyway anyone have any cool spots they always goto?!?! bwsides the roof or bowling alley,even a building that almost no one knows about ??please reply!!
today me my girlfriend and one of our friends who is a photographer visited the grounds,upon our arrival when walkin down the hill past the garage with the weird creepy skull head on it i knew i was in for a interesting afternoon.... my girlfriend suddenly became very worried and had a bad feeling like something was wrong... when we discoverd the biluldings we went into one of them and as soon as i walked in there was human poop by the door?? strange right!! we didnt go more than 10 feet in the door i felt like thewre was something or someone in there with us..when we walked out i looked back at the building and it looked ;like someone was in the window holding the curtain back so my friend took a picture,while walkin away we all felt like we were being watched and became very alert of our surroundings we continue to walk toward the main building and thats when it started... my girlfriend said she heard a woman screaming from a distance and we all stopped and stood silent and then we all heard it!!! it was 100 percent a woman screaming in pain comming from the building we were standing in front of totally freaked me out.. we all know what a screaming woman sounds like and this was the real thing!!! as we continued on takin photos and woundering what the hell happen there we all heard yet again a strange noise this time it sounded like a piano playing in the distance and that was reall really creepy!!!!! i noticed some graffiti that was super fresh and lokkede a lot better than the nonsense that was there like some kid james who wrote his name on a garage door,ive seen the graffiti before some kid sipha did some stuff there it was nice i seen him on a graffiti video as well as magazines...... when we were leaving we heard a reallly reaallly loud bang come from inside the building that sounded like a door being slammed shut by apowerful force... didnt see any cops or dudes in pickup trucks.. had a really awesome time cant wait to go back our visit was cut short by rain!!!! be back soon
Does anyone know if there is a museum of Hudson River State Hospital now and where it is? I have left 2 phone messages for the Town of Poughkeepsie- the historian, and haven't gotten any response. Seems no one ever answers the phone in the Town Hall. I would love to see if there is still a museum. There was certainly enough stuff to fill one!
Were originally in Kirkbride (the main hospital at the time) the part that didn't burn.
They were then moved to Cheney, and eventually dismantled.
There was a Mueseum of the beds, and equipment in Cheney on first floor, left of the elevators; They also had some equipment from different time periods as well.
This things I know having worked there, family worked there, and found a few things by accident as well.
thx for the info i kind of was thinking the same thing that it might be for electro shock therapy,not sure .i might have a picture of the room if i do i will post it.when did they start and stop doing electro shock therapy? Kriminal the building is poucher and i got in from a side tunnel off the main tunnels when entering from the side of cheney.but that intrance is welded shut now.Maybe i can meet you up their sometime,i love to explore this place.Was up their about a month ago ,so let me know if you want to check it out . Have you ever been to Letchworth Village a pretty good place to explore , about an hour from here towards west point ,a very creepy place.Google it lots of info on it.
The actual building to the left and just very slightly back to the courts was Poucher Hall- the dorm for married couples, male and senior students as I stated before. There was a laundry area downstairs and a kitchen and rec room, but nothing like what you are describing at all when I was there. It sounds to me like either a dentist office or electro shock therapy set-up, but there were no patients at all in that building. If you mean the huge building to the right of the courts as you are facing up the hill to the Main building, that is Ryan Hall, and although I don't remember ever being in that basement, there might have been an electro shock type room there. We had patients in some if the upper floors of Ryan Hall, and there was a big cafeteria (I think on the first floor if I remember correctly) where students and staff members ate. I used to joke with my friends who were complaining about the food at their schools- seriously- they were complaining about college food, when we were served the same food the state hospital patients got- not great stuff- especially when it was made in such huge quantity.
Hey this building your talking about is next to courts? is it ryon? cuz the only other ones around courts is cheney/snow/pouch
i only ask because im curious to see this room also have only found one tunnel entrance thats not sealed up so curious about them as well thanx. I guess answer best you can without being too descriptive here..
i got into that building from tunnels.on bottom floor or basement where i got in there was a couple of rooms , one which was very strange.It had a metal door and the room was very small.On the floor in the center of the room was a drain and in the corner of the room was a concrete slab that had electrical wires coming up through.It looked like there was a chair or something mounted on it at one time and on the wall next to it was some sort of circuit breakers with big handles on them that looked like something you would see for an electric chair circuit switch to turn power on and off.this room was very,very strange .Just wondering if you knew about that room or seen it when staying their.I love hearing about the history of the place and any info would be great.Reason why im so intrigued with this place is because my aunt and great aunt both stayed their in the 70s and i would go and visit with my mother when i was about 8 or so, but cant really remember much .For some reason i think they were in the Cheney building and from what i can remember both were a little crazy.just would like to know more info about the place.Thx for all your time and help.
No- sorry- maybe that sounds confusing. The only morgue (and lab) was in the back of the Main building (the Kirkbride). The nursing school was in Cheney, but as students we were all over the place. Also, just a note, that when someone died who had family they were notified to take care of the body, but there were plenty of people with no family contact, so those would be the ones who would have needed a place, and probably got sent to the 'poor" section of the local cemetery. That's just my guess. Happy to answer any questions about the place. It was my "home" for 3 years during training.
so there is a morgue in the Cheney building ? havent been able to find it .also does Ryon Hall have a morgue?The only morgue i have found is up behind the Kirkbride in the back.Thx for any info
I was a nursing student at HRSH and graduated in 1974. The school of nursing was in the Cheney building To answer some questions and comment on some some of the issues: The morgue was open at least through 1973 because we saw an autopsy there. In my 3 yrs there, I never saw a cemetery, and never really thought about it. There is none on my map of the grounds either. As senior students taking psychology, we had to attend a funeral of a patient (which was REALLY sad- no one else there and the only true pine box coffin I have ever seen), but I have no idea where the body went after it left the chapel, so maybe there really is no cemetery on the grounds.
The building between Cheney and the Snow building is Poucher- it housed staff members and senior nursing students. My room mate and I lived in the corner 2 rooms on the top floor on the right. We spent hours playing volleyball on the court to the right of the building.
The building to the right of the Main building, Avery Hall was the all female lower class nursing student dorm where we were all housed until senior year.
"Administration" was in the Main Building when I was there. There was no specific separate building with that name. Our class photos were taken in the large auditorium right inside the center of the building.
The "Historic" designation was given to the Main building only (Kirkbride). Since the fire has done so much significant damage (along with the vandals), it may not be too difficult for that designation to be removed, especialy if the price is right I should think.
As for the violent wards question- there were multiple wards with potentially violent patients in various buildings. These were the "locked wards". They were in Ryon Hall, but in other buildings as well. The truely criminally insane were sent to Mattaewan State Hospital in Beacon, NY.
It is a fascinating old place with LOTS of history- very understandable that younger people want to check it out, but so very sad that it is being destroyed. I had a wonderful 3 years living there and going to school there. And it was certainly interesting!!!
went today and discovered theres power and generator running in powerhouse not sure why but never was on before.
Chris the morgue is not on the second floor of any building. It is however behind the Main building next to what used to be the Police/Fire Station.
It's simple a small room with a few slabs.
They did do autopsies there up until the 1960's from what i understand.
I used to work there in the Cheney building on the Admissions Unit on Ward 204.It was a Male ward which housed up to 55 guys. That was on the second floor....
Do your own Research or hook up with others that know the grounds, I know of many people that visit these grounds regularly and if your not going to destroy this Historical Gem they will have no problem showing others around...Posting enterances and other Locations that are keeps under wraps just get these places Destroyed, I myself have no problem showing others the places I know as well...Just watch what you Post. CatchMeIfUCan-Urban Xploration
go here a few times a week the cops dont go as much as you might think plus how will they get you in the first place. Plus if your going just to see and not hurt they dont mind at all. its the people that want to ruin who should get caught. Ive caught a few myself up there and scared em off there is night patrol so watch your back keep lean and say hi if you dont mind :> either way this is history dont break and steal how would you like it if somebody did that to you in your own house? this place is fun tho id say everyone should go unless its some nights......The other night i saw what is actually there for the first time and i never want to see them again it went right through me.....i never saw before that night....I hope you all get to feel that one time :> goodluck
There is a small group of us looking for others interested in getting together to do some urban exploring, we are fairly new at this so would appreciate any feedback/help. Thank you
Went up a few days ago in the day with no problem,went into all the main buildings including the morgue and factory ith the smoke stack.However when we were on the roof of chenney we saw the white pickup with a uniformed cop walking past it towards the building. never seen a cop just walking around in there,did this happen to anyone else ever?? please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org .Id be glad to help with ways in some of the harder buildings just email me. happy exploring besafe!!
If anyone needs help getting to buildings or anything with entering just email me. I'll be glad to help you through the grounds. But I will not accept any vandalism. Any questions or help email me. email@example.com
The driver of the red pickup is named Ron. He knows everything and anything about building 51 and the surronding buildings. He patrols every so often. Please do not give away ways of entering the building, it spoils future visits to all other urban explorers. And of course, take nothing with you but your photographs, and leave nothing but your footsteps.
yea idk about this nightime patrol stuff as im there quite often as well and have never seen a red truck the caretaker is a dirty redneck that drives a white pickup and he wont hesitate to chase people and/or call the po and christian does have point these pigs and caretakers/security they all check these forums so my advice if someone says something that interests you then mail them or whatever you gotta do but DO NOT reveal anything about this place or any place these forums are great however far from safe. Everybody be safe and be smart and take care of this place and any of the other places we all visit because they are not gonna be around forever and we're lucky to still even have them now look at norwich, pilgrim and kings park as well as all the others that have been torn down for lavish condos and strip malls appreciate what we have.
- Eff "caretakers"
I seriously doubt that there are security guys walking the grounds all night. I've seen shadowy figures but I knew they couldn't be real. I mean they'd have to be crazy to walk around throughout the buildings at night searching for people. I know regular security for the most part won't go into the lead and asbestos filled buildings. Although I think it's stupid that they'd be driving around patrolling. What would they want to protect so badly anyway?
this place is well patrolled at times depends when you go. Been there about a 100 times now with friends never touched anything never hurt anything because its a perfect place. If you go have some respect and enjoy it for what it is the history and the lives that were held here. Plus have u seen the dudes who patrol it at night? 2 guys in black there always there now kinda creepy they come outta nowhere must know the place so well they dont use any lights they where in a building last night and on the roads they must know this place to well......
Ive seen the red pickup hanging out in front of the kirkbride. I don't know who they are, I thought maybe they were property managers but then they could be security. I dunno.
Yes, the pickup was red. Anyone know anything about the "groundskeeper"?
You guys make me laugh... Wardy? Increased security? You are giving away your enterances on this site. I heard from some fairly reliable people that cops are checking open forums such as these to gain knowledge of entrances. If you want to keep "urbexing" don't give anything away with out the site being closed to the general public
I think the rectangular building may just have been some sort of office building. It's connected to the tunnel network but when you go inside there isn't much of anything but books and papers, on all levels. You can get on the roof but there isn't really much to it; no patient housing or anything. I think there were some records in there though, there are rooms full of papers. Tr pickup that drove by, was it red?
My friend and I got into Cheney via our entrance that's been there since December. Then we found another entrance that we used to exit the building. We did see two guys walk past Cheney while we were inside, and a pickup drove past about two minutes later. Made it to the roof of Cheney for the first time. Very impressive views!
Anyway, I still haven't been to the north-east corner where the older buildings and the Kirkbride are. I labeled a map: imgur.com which letter best shows the location of the morgue? I know it's on the second story.
Also, what is the rectangular building between Cheney and Snow?
I haven't been up in over a month and I have an almost fool-proof way in as well, however, the last time I went the cops were so darn suspicious, and seemingly everywhere. It's almost as if they can sense a trespasser from miles away. They see a group of youths in the area, it's over; they see kids walking and they're on guard. If you're in your car they'll actually ask you what you're doing and stuff. They were sitting on every entrance of mine and followed me all over the back hills just to see where I was going. It's usually got more watch during the summer months anyway. Sigh. I want in.
So just wondering if anyone's had any troubles here lately. I've had a way in for a long time that's always been full proof and off the radar and as luck would have it we headed over Monday eveningish and went our usual way except this time there was a cop sitting there and there's never EVER! Been cops or anyone here so then out of nowhere comes another cop this one rolled right up on us and followed us all the way out then slowly doubled back THEN! Yet another but this was town cop came flying up on us and then turned off and went behind the home depot nearby where a lot of clueless people try parking and he parked back there. I'm not a paranoid dude but I'm not careless either an have dealt with this in other locations but have never seen it at HRPC just wondering if anyone's heard anything or witnessed anything funny like this going on I mean it almost seems as if someone had to have told them or the hillbilly caretaker about this entry point or could be maybe rumors about Wardy are true and since he hasn't been on here for awhile maybe he's told them all he knows and he does know the place very well idk it's real suspicious tho and WILL NOT!! Keep me outta here cuz it's my favorite local explore. People get caught an they rat.
Just found a 1920 census online. My Great Uncle was listed as being here. He was 22 at the time. He was injured in the war. Would this have been where they would have sent him to treat "shell shock"?
I haven't been up there in like 2weeks because I thought it was going to be knocked down. Anyone been there recently?? Also,I've seen that graffiti there's tons on the roof now,any interesting stories up there lately!?!
Well ONE of us has to buy it! I'll give them $1 for Cheney, I know no one else wants it!
Prudential doesn't have a list price, but I'm sure it's just a tad out of my price range! Think the realtor will give a tour to prospective buyers? Haha
Also, graffiti reading "JIZZ" appeared on the upper levels of the south face of Cheney. I actually want to go clean it off and kick the ass of the 15-year-old that did it.
I was able to get into both Ryon Hall and Snow Yesterday. Would love to find someone that is a photographer and has been there as well to go back with... Any Takers?
Went into Ryan Hall And snow today...Would love to go back with another photographer. Anyone game?
Hey guys i see you went up a few days ago,what way did you get onto the grounds without being seen?? was there anyone driving around there?? please let me know on here or email me any info!!!!! firstname.lastname@example.org Thanks!!!
I know the ways in to all buildings, and I know where the admin buildings are. Been there past two mondays
was up their a while back and couldnt find a place in to Cheney or Ryon Hall. Even the tunnels where sealed up.Is there any ways in now.better at night or day let me know.thanks
So many people in these buildings today. Saw a few creepy looking people in Cheney. Had a great day though and took amazing pics. Who else was here today? I saw a lot of you.
ive found many tunnel entrances but all welded or covered anyone been there recently that knows definite way in them?
Have been in most buildings but im on hunt for the building referred to as "admin" any help would be appreciated thanks
They are destroying this place I even applied for a job to help just for some $ lol but ya mind as well go nuts cause they plan to blow this place to hell... I mean like booooooooooom!!! Get ur vids in and spend ur last moments and enjoy it cause it's getting fucked up like japan ... It's sad to say but ya it's going bye bye .. They even kicked out the homeless people.. That's how u know they are nat bull shitting us.. Btw shook wasted like 300 dollars in paint lmao sucks to be u man I know u will see this lol ... Ps. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!! p.s.s idk who stole the fire system pipes and flooded the basment I hope u get hit bye a train ... I had to walk in that shit and there was a hole in my shoe -_- ... R.I.P H.R.S.H. .... Btw the fire truck for this place is right bye my house it's mad cool .. I hope they keep the kirkbride .. Goodnight evreyone .. Boom!!!
hit me up man ill help you out getting in the kirkbride,&the location of the morgue email@example.com
Flawed logic: it's falling apart, why accelerate the rate at which it deteriorates? What exactly does graffiti accomplish? No one understands it and very few people appreciate it.
The building was closed in 2003 because large mental health institutions were becoming obsolete. Anti-depressants, schizophrenia medication, and psychotic episodes became manageable thanks to mainstream drugs made in the 60s and 70s. People could take care of themselves. The property had to be insanely expensive to maintain. Patient counts dwindled and most were moved to the new, smaller facility on 9G, while others were sent down to Rockland County.
Wikipedia says 2003 was the closure date, and I believe it. The newest thing I found in Cheney was a perfectly intact Daily News from February 2001. There is video on YouTube of the power building (it might be Wardy's) and there's a close-up of a Poughkeepsie Journal from 2002, so it certainly wasn't closed in '01. I don't know if the buildings were closed over time or all at once.
I've yet to make it to the Kirkbride, but I found a place on Marist's campus (where I go, I'm from Fishkill) where I can see it. I believe the morgue is in the complex behind it, but if someone could be more specific, that'd be great!
lol awwww someones gonna cry . i dare you to run into me here woman,ill be there friday @@ 9 if you need me. ill even meet you in the morgue. lol hippie.
Your retarded and hopefully you either get caught or fall through one of the floors and get hurt its dumbasses like you that ruin these places for the rest of us, hope i run into you here bro..
Going up tomorrow with 9cans of paint if its getting destroyed might as well ruin it right?? just wound ways into cheney,morgue,church,and school. Hello painting session!!
I don't think HRSH had it's own cemetery. I think patients were buried in community graves or sent back to their families.
i looked through comments can find any information also does anybody have any details on why the buiding that was cleared out in 2001 was in fact closed