Welcome to the Hudson River State Hospital located in the United States in Poughkeepsie, New York. This gigantic hospital has overlooked the Hudson River for 136 years since its initial construction in 1871. The various hospital buildings were constructed and belong to the famous Kirkbride architectural order (read more on this excellent website).
The hospital was divided into two wings, for male and female patients, with an administration section located in the center. The male wing was much larger than the respective female wing. This was caused by the number of patients being unequal between the sexes (see the sky view from the hospital using the link above).
The beauty of the decay was unbelievable in this hospital. Most of the original constructions had been preserved.
Future renovation construction of the hospital were planned long ago. A fire, caused by lightning, burned the male wing in June 2007. As of the date of this article, the fate of Hudson Psyche Center remains unknown.
Hopefully this awesome Kirkbride will be saved. The United States is certainly not Europe and listing historical buildings as monuments might not be enough to protect them…
Archive documents dated between 1891 and 1918 (click on a thumbnail to enlarge):
Special thanks to Dr. Bob for sharing the old postcards.
Reference for the scanned documents: Handbook of the State Hospital Commission and the Hospitals for the Insane, 1918, E.S.Graney.
I had the opportunity to visit last week while in town on business. By chance, I was out and about early for work and one of the makeshift front gates was open so I went in. I went all the way to the top and started around the back and drove by some construction workers. One of them promptly followed me because he said he thought I was another contractor he was waiting for (my work vehicle is a truck). Anyway, he was very nice and asked if I was lost to which I replied I was, and I'm sure the out of state plates helped. Long story short, I left but did some quick research on my phone and found another way in. I went into an additional parking lot behind a church in the SE corner of the hospital property. Maybe not the best idea but it was the middle of the day and week, plus raining out, so I thought I was safe.
I did get on the property without a problem but didn't stay too long because I didn't want to get in trouble, and don't know how much security is around. I was able to access several buildings and get some pretty good photos. For self-preservation, I didn't wander too far from where i came in because the workers had already saw me. I think the best place to enter would be somewhere by Home Depot, but that's just my guess. As another person said, I am sure if you are wandering around with a camera and don't have any spray paint or other destructive material that security probably wouldn't hassle and/or arrest you. But, there are PLENTY of signs letting you know you are on private property, and all the old entrances are gated and locked. Go in and leave no trace and you'll probably be fine.
Expanding on what Arim164 said. All the roads were closed off heavily, and a new section appeared to have been condemned on the eastern roads leading to the old Kirkbride. I drove along there and almost ran into a security vehicle, and then a gate was open for about ten minutes, then closed by the time I turned around. The site is clearly very active now and exploring it is probably no longer feasible. Sucks because I'd never been and really wanted to see it before it's all gone.
I just visited there today, I went to the entrance next to Home Depot. From the gate I could there were several trucks and trailers. The kind of trailers that are used to carry construction equipment and what not. I believe they are beginning demolition.
Anyone in albany area wanna make trek before shes gone?
I tell you, I am not a fraud, you're just going to have to take my word for it, or not! I just remember that in the back of the Hillcrest building was an empty field with a line of trees that went up to the high way. If you turned right on that high way, it was a short walk to the bowling alley. I'm sure that if you research it, you will find that there was a bowling alley there. If you got the first publishing of my book, I had changed Abbie's name to Annie as she had requested I keep her anonymous until her demise. I am still in touch with Enid's children, that was the nurse who did the picnic dinner with me in the quiet room. I am sorry you got mad at me, I pray God will open your heart and your eyes and give you peace.
More news on development..
For any who are interested. This is likely the beginning of the end of HRSH. www.poughkeepsiejournal.com
The museum of Hudson River State Hospital is now open. It is located at 12 Cheney Drive, Poughkeepsie, New York. There are six rooms filled with artifacts, pictures and information regarding the treatments and modalities at the hospital. Tours are scheduled by appointment. 845-471-2765. Please leave a message and someone will return your call.
There was a body found the property..
I was just wondering if anyone knew if they had started demolitions on the property i wanted to take one last visit over before that happens.
Is there any pictures of the fire house. Found a picture of a fire truck. That was it.
Yes, there was a complete fire house on the property. It was located behind the Main building along with the plant facility building, blacksmith shop and carpenter and machine shop. I just posted a couple of pictures of some of the remaining items from the Firehouse that are in the HRSH museum onto the "Hudson River State Hospital Nursing School" Face book page. I don't have any pictures of the firehouse itself, but there are probably pictures at the museum. (It's hard to see exactly what is in the pictures taken at the museum, but it looks like there is information in a book on the shelf where the fireman hat is.)
Did the hospital have its own fire department. Is there any pictures of it. Been looking came across a fire helmet. That was it..
I've pretty much settled the Hillcrest thing but I see everyone is sort of ignoring the fact that Wardy and Kathy H. (author of 'Turning 15 in the Loony Bin') are both claiming to know an alternative Hillcrest that was demolished in the 50s. I'm angry because I bought the book and read a description of her journey up to Hillcrest and then to have the two of them on here trying to tell me that Hillcrest is to the north of the main building and it's a short walk (when that's the end of the property and the real Hillcrest is to the east and up the hill). I'm not gonna try and open up an old argument but I'm angry because I think Kathy is a fraud.
led-zep - I did not mean to insult you. Sorry, I misread your statement. I was just trying to help, more than to correct.
Sandra Filler: Would you please send me an email at firstname.lastname@example.org I have a question that our HRSH Alumni Association has been searching for an answer to, but I would rather not post it here. You may just be the person who can fill in the answer. Your help would really be appreciated. Thank you.
The opening statement, titled "Kirkbride Building" has a slight error. Actually, the male patients were housed in the smaller section. If you're looking at the front of the Main Building, (which is another name it was known as) the wing to the left was known as North Wing for male patients and the much larger wing to the right of the Main building was for female patients, known as South Wing. I worked in that building from 1959-1971 as a Therapy Aide. I then transferred to the new Herman B. Snow Building (Rehab. Building) and worked as a building attendant along with one other person. Our job was to make sure patients ( name later changed to clients) were directed to their Rehab programs. We were also responsible for reporting any incidents, giving tours to people such as other hospitals coming to see the latest thing in Rehabilitation styles, the G.R.O.W. Workshops, (which I obtained a job as Rehab. Asst. II) where the clients worked for pay at different jobs for companies from the community, such as I.B.M., Western Publishing, Eastern Lithographic, Schatz Manufacturing, etc. Also we showed dignitaries from Albany, NYC, Washington DC, and other states who came to see this building. A building called Pilgrim Hall ( housed clients was demolished to build the Snow Rehab Building. It had everything to recreate, relax and or learn there, a pool, gym, bowling alley, auditorium with stage and the ability to show movies. It had a library, class rooms for obtaining a G.E.D., Art classes, etc.. The recreation dept. was based there and had programs going on at all times. There was a community store & cafeteria for all to shop or eat there if they wanted to. Night activities for the clients were done there too, such as dart ball, dances, band practice for those who played an instrument, birthday parties and much more. The Rehab employees were like a family and helped each other make a very cheery and upbeat atmosphere for the clients. I worked there from 1971 to 1995 when I retired as a workshop supervisor after 36 1/2 years. I never regretted going to work there from high school. I felt I had made a difference in the clients life for the better. I also worked with some of the most dedicated people that kept the clients interest at the forefront of their jobs. I am saddened to see the grounds going to ruin and do hope before to many years go by that something is done to restore some of the buildings. I enjoy reading about HRPC and am glad there is continued interest in the hospitals history.
I know the Cheney building opened in the 50's.I was saying that i use to visit my great aunt in the Cheney building back in the 70's.Maybe you to need to understand what i wrote before correcting me ,I wasn't saying she was their in the 20's or 30's thats when she was put in their JEANNE!
For the record I havent the idea as to where you people get your intel from but you know nothing about HRSH, simply because
you know nothing about the Laws of that date in time when Children/or persons under the age of 21 were kept at all times
seperated from the Adult popolation of the hospital. From the Cheney buld. to the back of the hospital or meaning to where
Rt.9 cuts through the hospital. is where the adults were kept and on the otherside of Rt.9 up the hill and away from anyone's
eyesight that might be walking or driving on Rt.9 is where Hillcrest was located. The reason I know this is because in the year
of 1962 I use to go there to visit a close friend every weekend that was under the age of 16.Also past Hillcrest roughly 800 feet
was a building for patient's that were dionosed with TB and along that road there was cabin like houses that housed elderly
women.but however the children were kept seperated do to their age's. For me to further write on this subject it would no doubt
turn this letter of comment into a book.And for the records also the property on the other side of Rt.9 is not a part that was put
into the origenal blueprint of the Hospital because that land was donated to the hospital in 1951.And for the record I happen to
know persons from that time that are still alive that were at Hillcrest and for the record to I wont allow you or any of your sick
friends to exploit them into your horror movies where all of this bull crap originated from. They are human beings in case all of
you's forgot. If I have the time and there is anyone thats enterested in the real horror stories from that time of what America
allowed to happend to its citizens.Then maybe I'l begin writing a book of what happend to those poor souls.
The new owners are having problems with waste disposal on the property, so canít do anything else at this point. Itís a long process, and will most likely take years.
Lep Zep- The Cheney Building didnít open until 1952.
The grounds are patrolled by off duty police officers. It is extremely dangerous to enter now; more so now that the buildings have deteriorated by so many thieves. Also a mountain lion sighting was confirmed on the grounds. A picture of it was taken, and the photographer reported it as a different animal (I forget what), but it was seen by authorities who confirmed it is a mountain lion.
Also, for anyone who is seriously interested in the history, you can check out the HRSH Nurses Alumni webpage and Facebook page. There are histories of both the hospital and the nursing school as well as many pictures with more pictures of the museum to be posted soon. The website is HRSHnursesalumni.wordpress.com and the FaceBook page is under Hudson River State Hospital School of Nursing. The hospital history with a timeline is posted under 2011 and I will try to repost it now so that it will be more recent too. (I graduated from the nursing school in 1974.)
And one more time:Hillcrest is on what is now Cheney Drive- off 9G. The building still stands-it is a homeless shelter. This is the original and only Hillcrest. There are maps of the grounds posted on the website and Face Bk pages.
Any news on the sale of the property. What are they going to do with it???
im going this sunday with a few others. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY TIPS OF WHERE TO ENTER?
was there earlier as i was about to enter the grounds i seen 2 honda suvs with one with dark tinted windows assuming its off duty cops doing a night watch both cars were park past the chenney next to ryon hall any one have any similar in counters i am a photographer just looking to take some pictures
For those actually want to go there for photography or other none-destructive reasons, go during the day and only go in a group of 2-3. If you want to go into the building, go buy a breathing mask from home depot. Enter through the woods NORTH of the college. Its worth the hike, every other entrance is patrolled. Once you get in the buildings, as long as you don't make a lot of noise you'll be fine. The trick is getting in without being seen. There are very few places to actually enter and exit the main the main building, they've boarded up a lot of the smashed out windows, so work quickly. If they catch you RUN, don't let them call the cops or arrest you. If you run to the woods in the north, you'll be fine.
Just make sure your in some kind of decent shape if you want to go in the building and escape without a huge fine and an arrest. They've done it before, but only if your stupid enough to hang around.
Marist Class 15'
I have some info on the place.When I was about 10 or so I used to go and visit my moms aunt their in the late 70's. She was put in their in her teens(for what my mom told me because she liked to sleep around)by her parents.I would have to say it must of been around the 1920's or early 1930's when she was admitted.From what my mother knows that her aunt did have lobotomies done on her when their.That was a perfect example of someone not being crazy but ending up becoming crazy after being their.The building that she was in at the time was the Chaney building i think , which is the tallest building on the grounds . I must say going to that place and seeing the patients walking around the grounds and the screams and cry's that I heard while walking down the halls was very disturbing for me . My mothers aunt lived their her whole life and would come to my grandparents house every Christmas and I must say it seemed that each year that I would see her she would be a little bit more crazy.That place really stuck with me over the years and as I got older I got more intrigued with the place and in my teens I would ride my bike through the grounds and see patients just walking freely throughout the grounds .I've been up their quite a few times in the last couple of years going through the buildings (I MUST SAY IT HAS A VERY CREEPY FEELING TO IT)just wondering how bad it must of been for the patients that lived their because seeing the way my moms aunt ended up it must not of been very good.Hope this will help you out a little bit .THX
I would love to learn more about the documentary you are assembling. Unfortunately, I have little information to share to assist you. My great grandmother was institutionalized in the hospital between 1935 and 1940, where she remained until she passed in 1947. I would like to learn more about the hospital and what life may have been like for those who lived there. Thank you!
I am currently directing a documentary about the history of psych center in poughkeepsie. If there is anybody that has information, footage, pictures or would like to be a part of our documentary pleae do not hesitate to contact me by my email listed. Any stories or interviews would be a wonderful way of making our film better. Thank you!
I grew up and lived on the grounds from 1954-1972. Hillcrest was always the long brick building on the hill near Ross Pavillion.
A few buddies and I want to check this place out. Does anybody have some type of map? Even if it just a screenshot of the place on google maps with some scribbles on it done in paint it would be helpful. I doesn't need it to be over the top, basically just the buildings labelled.
Hi I was thinking of going there soon, has anyone been there in the past month or two and knows if any patrols or anything is there?
that's what i always thought. There are people leading me to believe that in the 1960s, there was a Hillcrest that existed elsewhere on the campus somewhere up on the hill (i'm assuming around Violet and 9G) that was demolished. They've been saying that the Hillcrest House that remains isn't the original Hillcrest where children were attending. I know that there are a small number of buildings that were demolished/collapsed into the ground and built on top of, but none that were demolished in the 1960s so my argument was blowing up. I feel like i'm being lied to and certain people have things to hide. Thank you for clearing this up for me Steve
To all posting about Hillcrest, The Hillcrest House from the main campus was located across state route 9G (VioletAve) Cottage Road to Cheney Drive, to Snow Terrace. From the Kirkbride you would head East on Hudson View Drive to Paint Shop road to West Cottage out the gate then cross over 9g. Hillcrest School today is the Hillcrest House, part of Hudson River Housing, along with an emergency shelter, After they closed the main campus the State Hospital moved over there to the Ross Pavillion just east of the Hillcrest House.
I think i was stopped by the same cop.He seemed to be a decent guy,i was walking my dog up their with my son a couple of months ago.He asked for id and checked me out and knew we werent hurting anything .So he let us go .We talked for about 10 min.I was carrying my .357(legally) which i told him and he stated that it was a good idea to be up their packing because alot of homeless and drug addicts go up their and Will try to rob the unsuspected so be careful if you go their because you never know who could be hiding or living in them empty buildings.oh yea he also said that they work staggered shifts and some of the cops dont like working up at the psych center at night so they wont take the shifts.It is a nice place to walk around and explore but thanks to all the LOWLIFES that wrecked and stole things like all the copper out of the buildings ,us people that just want to check the place out and are interested in the history of the place CANT. SO BE CAREFUL AND GIVE THE OLD PLACE THE RESPECT THAT IT DESERVE.
Yes, the grounds are patrolled by off-duty police. I've spoken to some of them. They are paid overtime by the company that owns the property. Must be an insurance requirement or something. They use their own cars to drive around. I work at Home Depot.
The police are encouraged to arrest for trespassing, criminal mischief and burglary, if you take something. This ensures their ongoing job there. I've seen a few people get scooped up and taken away.
I don't think it's worth the risk. Take your pictures from route 9 and avoid getting asbestos in your lungs.
I was just there on the 16th. i parked on a road and walked through the woods and fence. there were 5 of us. we were like ninjas in the brush and stayed away from the main road as much as we could. we saw what looked like a white jeep driving around. as we made our way to the kirkbide (we did that last) we were just walking and i happened to glance over and saw the white vehicle. i swear it was about 50 feet from us on the road and we were in the brush walking. i looked right at it as did everyone else and it was a good 20-30 secs before we realized, holy shit, get to the ground. we dropped to our stomachs and the person didnt stop. i know damn well they saw us. they had to have seen us. but, they just drove on by. we stayed on the ground for a solid half hr or so just to be safe.
If it is sold I hope they keep that rec center the same. Just fix it up. Out of all the state hospitals ive researched. The snow building was the coolest. So far i've seen..
I grew up in Poughkeepsie. Wsa born there. We use to drive by all the time on the way to my Grandparents house and always use to look at it in wonder! I had no idea it was closed and abandoned now. Id really love to go and take some photo's, like I do at Kings Park- still, such a cool place, anyway, if anyone wants to go and take some photo's please keep me posted, thanks!!!
Here is a link to the article in the Poughkeepsie Journal about the possible sale. I haven't seen one about the sale actually going through. www.poughkeepsiejournal.com
Hurd that the grounds have been bought for 1.5 mill suppose to be finalized on Friday this was Hurd on a radio station did anyone else here this is this true ?
P.s does any one know about the church in the back of the grounds there is a gate leading into the back of the place has any one had any luck getting in that way has any one been there recently please leave comments
i've encountered vehicles actually driving or just parked on the campus. Two of the most familiar to me are a white, kinda old, pickup truck and a red dodge ram, newer. i've seen police hanging around Home Depot waiting to see if people are going to enter the campus but never seen actual police on the grounds. Does Poughkeepsie actually own the abandoned grounds, because if that's the case, the city's police can actually actively patrol it. I think there is a security company but in either case, i've never run into them, day or night, i've seen them but i was always fortunate to not get spotted or waited on. I doubt they'd be walking around as they're going to have issues with their own personal safety, in any case, never seen anyone walking around unless they were doing the same thing as me; exploring.
Is anyone aware if There are any night patrols?
So I heard that the cops just come and go as they please now i have seen cop cars going in from the rt9 gate and I herd that they walk around in street clothing anyone seen this I wanna go visit but it's not worth a ticket to me
It's Pretty easy to get into this location if you know how to look, In response to some people hearing about a loud banging sound in the main building, it seems there is a door on the upper level that slams whenever the wind blows, their are no windows to keep the wind from getting in that room. The place has its vibe that is uneasy but makes for great photographs! If you're into exploring and not destroying a beautiful place then this is a place you should visit!
Well, i'm not surprised to see i haven't received any responses from my last post.
I re-read 'Turning 15 in the Loony Bin' and, once again, if not Jeanne's Hillcrest, please tell me where this 'secret' location to the 'old Hillcrest' is located. This whole Hillcrest thing makes me wonder about the true authenticity of Kathy's experiences and short novel--which is a bold statement that i've been eluding to since previous comments in regard to hillcrest. It also makes me wonder about Wardy, who people have suggested is a mole. I'm aggravated with this Hillcrest thing. It's on record in your previous comments, I left a whole analysis with follow-up questions and didn't get a response for days from neither Kathy and Wardy, who says he knows where 'real' Hillcrest is. Either Kathy doesn't know what she's talking about or... I don't know, she just doesn't know what she's talking about.
Scroll down to April 16, 2013. In case you don't want to;
Kathy describes a 10-15 minute ride from the kirkbride building, up the hill to Hillcrest, I found a building that is identified as Hillcrest and fits the description in her book but she says that it isn't Hillcrest. This was followed by Wardy describing Hillcerst as being to the North of the Kirkbride. He's a mythical being that knows all things in regards to this abandoned property, so of course he eludes to the evidence he has that supports a building being located in that open field to the north of the kirkbride. Despite the fact that there is no road there and it's quartered off by trees, it's not uphill and is only 2-5 minute drive from the main building. I'm getting aggravated. Jeanne is the only person making sense here. I am not trying to create animosity, but i wanna get to the bottom of this, and idgaf who's at the top. Thank you Jeanne.
Kathy- no disrespect is meant, but you are mistaken, and are not looking at the facts. Even the author on the link you posted (which I had previously posted), says that Hillcrest was "set in the very back of the property, well away from the main entrance...", and they had to take a car back and forth. There is plenty of confirmation of where the Hillcrest building was, and still is today (now it's called Hillcrest House). If you go to my post of Feb. 25, 2013, you can see exacly where it is, and follow the facts, including those from your own book on pages 74-75.
I'm wondering what the best way to get onto the grounds is without being spotted. I've entered by parking in the Home Depot lot and just walking in in broad daylight, and I've also gotten in by the American Legion in the evening. The Home Depot way seems like an awful idea to try again (not that I got caught), and the American Legion is open during the day and I would like to go before the sun goes down. I know people go through the woods and climb through holes in the fences, but I have no idea where those are, or where I could park and start my trek. Can anybody help me out? I'd really love to check out more of this place, both of my trips were quite short. Thanks!!
Just because I haven't been on this site, does not mean that I am wrong about where the Hillcrest school was. Perhaps you may find what you are looking for on this site. web.lemoyne.edu. I am too old and have been through too much to put up with people who are so disrespectful, that's why I stopped coming to this site.
Ray- I emailed the Realtor asking if I could photograph the exterior of the buildings, and I got a terse response that just said "Sorry, no pictures are allowed."
I grew up in Beacon, NY. The castle is called Bannerman's Castle on Pollepol Island. There is really good info about it on Wikipedia although the information isn't complete, since they have started shoring it up, and they are now offering tours of it.
So now that the land is for sale- can you call the realty company or anyone to get on the grounds legally? Dying to a specific fashion photo shoot here. Also what's the daytime creepy factor?
I used to study nearby this hospital but I've never seen it. Anyhow, have you seen a banded castle by the river on the way to Poughkeepsie station from New York?? It looks freaking cool
check this out my photo of it from the train
I have been up their many times day and night and have had some paranormal experiences ,so i would say yesss! Thats my opinion.
looking for anyone familiar with the grounds that is willing to show us around. I am serious about exploring this site so any help would be much appreciated.
Is this place haunted at all?
Firstly, Bx1983 how many were in your group? And what types of stories did the cops tell you while you were in their car. Was there yesterday and a white pickup was patrolling. I was on the morgue and they rode right by, I was afraid he saw me because I was standing right in front of the window but layed low for a few and headed over to Cheney and didn't see him again. I'd like to hear from anyone who had run ins with security or police... Has anyone been caught and then let go? Also interested in hearing if anyone has had any paranormal experiences here.
I've been at the location a variety of hours and have only seen patrols three times but I was fortunate enough not to encounter them while outside on the actual grounds. I dunno what the scheduling is like but I'd say you'd want to spend as little time as possible out in the open. For as long as I've been exploring, I've come to the conclusion that patrols won't enter buildings, even if they know you're in there. They do their jobs but they're not stupid. I've been there when people were apprehended, didn't actually see it, but larger groups that are really disruptive are more likely to get picked up by patrols. Although, i imagine a larger group wound be less likely to get taken in for paperwork because that's way too much work. Going at night is dangerous but you probably won't encounter any patrols. It comes at the cost of your own visibility and don't even bother entering the kirkbride, far too perilous. Daytime, try not to be obvious is all i can say and if you're approached, express genuine curiosity and be apologetic... Or just disappear into the woods. Patrols aren't real police, they can keep you there until the men in blue arrive but I wouldn't wait, just run. What're they gonna do, shoot you?
I really want to go here! Anyone have any suggestions? I don't want to get arrested
is there a better time to go regarding security? Mornings? later in the day? REally want to do a photo shoot there but don't want to get caught.
Hey James email me!! Af1king845@yahoo.com. Trying to get a group together soon!
contact me on here if you want a tour
If anyone has questions on getting in or need a tour guide email me. email@example.com been here hundreds of time
No we were caught once and haven't been back since. I have no idea what they were thinking...they called for backup and wouldn't allow us to leave. We were respectful and they still wanted to prove a point. 3 cop cars came and none of them wanted anything to do with it. The MHP called their supervisor as backup and he insisted on pressing charges. I made the turn onto the main road by a gas station not sure what street that is and parked the car where there was a chained up gate. Put the flashers on and went under the fence. Didn't try to hide the car because we weren't causing damage or stealing. Yes all the hassle for trespassing. We live in the bronx and had to drive back up numerous times for court and to meet with a public defender/lawyers. The prosecutors did care...from the way they acted we committed 10 felonies. Looking back i guess it pays to be sneaky and run when approached lol sometimes honesty isn't the way to go!
Hey, BX1983, you got caught twice or are you talking about the last time in November? i'm curious to know what it is exactly the MHP? think they're doing when they catch you and force the reluctant police to file charges. you parked at the entrance around route 9? All that hassle for trespassing, what were the prosecutors like? did they even really care?
Sorry haven't been on this website in a while....to answer your questions...all 4 of us were arrested....The local cops did not want to take us in but the mental health security? insisted on pressing charges...not happy!! They caught us because we didn't try to hide and sneak it, we double parked the car at the entrance and left the flashers on lol. The cops told us some pretty creeped out stories on the way to the jail. As for what happened...they took us to the local jail...we sat there about 4 hours while they processed us all. We had to go to court 3 times and ended up paying fines of $300- $400 each. Be careful not to get caught!!
Oja- absolutely no offense taken, just pointing out the correct name. If you go, be very careful since it's not only illegal, but VERY DANGEROUS. Stay safe.
sorry if it appeared if i was calling anyone out. Jeanne, you gave me plenty of reason to believe that the Hillcrest that's up on the hill is the only Hillcrest standing and may be the only Hillcrest that ever stood seeing as how neither Kathy nor Wardy have responded to my evidence or inquiries.
I haven't been up there in a few months because i've been so busy. Im gearing up for my last few trips though. I haven't really gotten a chance to explore Ryon Hall and the Kirkbride. Breaks my heart to know the place has fallen into such disrepair and every year that passes it's only getting worse. I want to see all that i can before it's too late. Sigh. Love this location.
Oja- (I think you mean Kathy nor Wardy?) I've been checking back too, and am disappointed also that after all of their postings stating that they were so sure about the Hillcrest location, (and how wrong they think I am) ever since I have given more than ample proof, they have not responded. I wish they would either supply some evidence, or just admit they made a mistake.
I drove past the old place on my way to an Alumni meeting recently- seems to get worse and worse.
I'm a little disappointed that i haven't recieved a response from Jeanne nor Wardy in regards to this Hillcrest thing. i just wanna get this debate all sorted out because the longer i wait, the more i start to wonder about certain people and certain things.
Alright, thank you Jeanne, I'm looking at the map right now and the building looks like the one in the picture and I found it right where I suspected it would be. However, now I am confused by Wardy and Kathy's previous comments regarding its 'old' location. I need some clarification from them.
Kathy, you're saying the original Hillcrest was demolished. But in your book you described a 10-15 minute drive up the hill to Hillcrest. I'm looking at the map and you would have to head east along paint shop road to get up the hill and I don't see any other breaks along the road that would have accommodated a building that isn't there anymore.
Wardy, you're in contact with Kathy and you're describing a golf course on the north side of the kirkbride. The short female wing is on the north side and right beyond that are trees and then a big empty space and then more trees and then Albany Post Road. I'll need to skim through Kathy's book some more but it couldn't be on that north side because the road is really short and doesn't equate to a 10-15 min ride, more like a 2-5 minute ride...
I just need clarification, this Hillcrest thing is getting on my damn nerves. Wardy, what did you see that gave you proof and confirmation it was there?
Oja -That photo absolutely is Hillcrest at Hudson River. If you go to bingmaps.com and check out the bird's eye view on Ryan Drive between Ryan and Cheney Drive, you can clearly see the building and all of the details shown in the picture. Hillcrest is the first of the long buildings. This is the "upper campus". Kathy is mistaken that Hillcrest was on the Main Campus. There are also more postings of old photos of Hudson River State Hospital being added to the Alumni Website which is hrshnursesalumni.wordpress.com if anyone is interested.
Is this the Hillcrest school Kathy wrote about?
Thinking about going too. Want to do a photoshoot there, but I am really anxious in regards to the security.
HRSH is at the beginning of the film 'Greystone Park', shots of the kirkbride at the very beginning. This movie is on Netflix. They're supposed to be checking out Greystone but show HRSH.
Hey guys just letting you know I just completed two series of video's on YouTube. One is on Kings Park and one is on Hudson in HD. You can find them by searching the username "bikercrze1" or just follow either of these links to the playlists. I have two series of Kings Park but one is older.
Hudson River State Hospital:
Kings Park Psychiatric Center Series 1
Kings Park Psychiatric Center Series 2
Kathy (and Wardy)- In your book (on pages 74-75), you said the ride was about 15 mins from the Main building to Hillcrest which is in the way back of the property. That is correct. Also, I also have a map of the grounds- I can positively identify 121 of the buildings.(My map was updated in the early 1980's.) You can also read this on web.lemoyne.edu. I know names mean nothing, since anyone can write anything, but also you can check out my HRSH Facebook page if you want to. It is under "Hudson River State Hospital School of Nursing (HR Psychiatric Center)". The map with the key are posted there. Also, if you click on the map on this site, and follow Hudson View Drive to Paint Shop Road to West Cottage Road to Cheney Drive to Snow Terrace, you will see Hillcrest House (as it is now called) partway up the hill. Also check out: www.hudsonriverhousing.org The address is listed on the sidebar of that website too. I am not trying to be difficult, but just don't want misinformation to be on the web. I also checked with the president of the HRSH Alumni Association who has the original plans for the property at the HRSH museum, and she also confirmed for me that this is the one and only Hillcrest school site. Oja- thanks so much for the links.
Whos been here lately?! hows security and everything else looking?? any more graffiti destroying this great place?? Havent been there in about 4 months!crappy weather. Hope to hear from you!!!
Wardy if u get the chance u should send me those videos I never got to watch all of them so if u get the chance man I'd love to see the rest of them.. Thanks man
Ok, but you first.
Everyone here kill yourselves.
I took my youtube down Because people were learning to much from them and then calling me a cop lolol, then they were going and destroying the places I was showing!. I still have all of my videos and them some on my flash drive.... I have a strong love for this place and its history.....
Hillcrest really is on the other side of route 9g, and is a homeless shelter, but it is run by the county and not the state. If you go up Cottage Rd to Cheney Drive, it's right up there. There are still a few buildings up in that area that were part of Hudson River. I just looked, and you can see it on the map on this page.
Wardy where did all your YouTube videos go ? Did u remove them .? I enjoyed watching them
I lost your E-mail..you can ,mail me @ firstname.lastname@example.org.. HOPE TO HERE FROM YOU SOON.... this page is still full of people that know everything!!!!! I would like one of your books that was not fixed with your autographed lol "I SEE YOU"
Hey Wardy, how you doin? Of course you are right, and I appreciate your worrying about my anonymity, no need. Jeanne from the class of 74 wouldn't know since Hillcrest was closed before she graduated. After selling a number of copies, someone finally told me the errors in the printing so if you would like, I will send you an autographed copy of the new and improved book. You still have my email addy, don't you? If you feel more secure going by Ebay, it's listed there as well.
my friend and i are going there today! has anyone caught anything paranormal there ?? and how's the security situation??
Went there tonight just before 6 PM, walked up toward Ryon Hall. Turned to leave, saw somebody walking with something on their head, possibly night vision. We said hey and they dropped to the ground. If you think this is you, email me, I would like to talk to you. Tell us what we said to you before we left. email: email@example.com
Was pretty sketchy seeing someone else in the pitch black.
No disrespest, not for nothing Jeanne But I am sorry I think you are wrong sorry........ I don't need to prove anything I told you how I know where it was.
Just prove what you are saying it true.. I will ay say sorry for being wrong... till then. that place is gone!!! and I have proof...
I JUS WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!
names mean nothig on here
Sorry this took so long. I heard the same thing about Hillcrest being repurposed. I also have Kathy's book 'Turning 15 in the Loony Bin'. Anyway. Here's the video from a documentary on mental illness where Hudson River State Hospital was still in operation. Skip to 13:00 for the grounds and some patients
And from 1991, same documentary series, shows j. Miller walking through an abandoned section of the wards and opening a door to reveal a part still in operation. Shocking.
Hillcrest was actually "Hillcrest School for Children". It was a building that housed and schooled children up to 16 years of age. It was NOT near the top of the golf course off the Kirkbride. The building still stands today, and is now a homeless shelter. It is on the upper campus which is on the other side of route 9G. The campus safety building is on the same street. They may still patrol the main grounds or not, I don't know, but they DO patrol the upper campus area. The few buildings up there are still open in various capacities, and are still owned and run by the state. It's possible that the company that bought the Main campus is paying for the security to do rounds there too. I don't know. Having been to nursing school there, I am sure that is where Hillcrest is/was. The book that is referred to is "Turning 15 in the Loony Bin" by Kathy L . Hiatt. Oja- would you please post that link when you can? Thanks.
Hillcrest is gone!!!! you have no idea what you are talking about...
Hillcrest was on the top of the golf course on the North side of the Kirkbride off the front!!!!! I know some one who went there and wrote a book, she showed me on a map and then I went there... Sorry man you can not get more of soiled source then that!! I have so much info on Hillcrest...
KR1... YOU ROOKIE!!! YOU NEED DO SIT BACK AND DO SOME MORE BOOK WORK, TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE IN THE WRONG PLACE LOLOLOL O WELL I GUESS THIS IS WHY YOU START THINGS!!!! YOUR JUST JEALOUS LOLOL its ok people are who they are.......
Good ol Wardy! Funny how you resurface when so much craziness is going on up at hudson! Coincidental i think not. You've always been a suspicious fellow and if everyone would take the time to scroll down through all the old comments they'd see what kind of person you are, my advice to everyone on here don't share any info with this kid and be mindful (as you always should!) because these realtors and security groups do read through these forums and thats how they find out about entry points and info about these locations then of course you have people like wardy who have no problem sharing info with these hick caretakers just to gain his own access. There is no little honda/security car and never has been its just town cops, state troopers and caretakers. And Oja Hillcrest is now in use its an old school on violet ave. Theres been alot of scrappers up here lately and I advise anyone who comes across them either bust em in the face or hop out and call the cops yourself because these dirtbags need to be stopped as hudson from last year to now has been damaged significantly.
Where is Hillcrest school?
Our birthdays are so close Wardy. I was up there in Halloween but my birthday was 11/01/12. 10 days apart but I wonder who's older?
Oh, yeah Jeanne, I post the link, just gotta get to a computer.
How many morgues are up their.I know of the one up in back behind Kirkbride, but is there any other ones like in Ryon Hall or Chenney.THX
Where is the plaque commemorating the veterans? I'm guessing on the American Legion building?
Where can I find the video of the Kirkbride when it was open? I would love to see it. I "worked" there 1972-1974 during nursing school. I've looked at everything I can find on youtube, and couldn't find it there or in a Google search. Would really appreciate it. Thanks.
DAM BX1983, that sucks. I have herd of many people ggetting caught BUT NOT TO MANY getting booked..The Last time I went was on my birthday 11-11-12. I was going home ridding my bike, and sitting in the parking lot by ryon hall and channy was THE SECURITY!!! in a little Honda civic!!! It said security in the front window and the back.... it was a young guy in his early to mid thirties... I went over to him, as he was coming for me as well, he told me that he was sitting there because he heard loud noises of people smashing things,"""I HATE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT!!!!"". Well I heard them as well and that is why I was I TOLD HIM THE DIRECTION OF THE NOISE!!!!! well where exactly I heard it,, In the ROOKIE section lol. I told him I lived on 9g and was passing through to get to the river and we went our separate ways..( O I found some things down there as well).. The other morgue, well i don't want to talk about it!!!! lets just say IT IS DESTROYED!!! IT is all graffiti up like crazy((( ALL OLD STUFF WELL MOST OF IT)) I cant believe people don't know more about it lol..............
I know there are two plaques. Well I think there are. There is one giving administration historic landmark designation and the other for commemorating veterans. I can't believe someone stole the landmark designation but I'm wondering when they noticed it was gone. I don't want to make it seem like the city doesn't really care but they've let what's left get so bad and they seem more interested in tearing things down than fixing. They could make money by giving tours too and history. Anyway, I know it's far fetched I just want the place to be preserved. Helm anyone see that video of the kirkbride when it was actually open with patients?
"The National Historic Landmark designation plaque which until recently had adorned the Administration Building, has been stolen. Anyone with information pertaining to the theft of this plaque is urged to contact us. A cash reward will be given to anyone who provides information leading to the return of the plaque. Thank you."
It's sad enough that HRSH is my Alma Mater and dying a slow death anyway, but I am so angry about this. It was probably taken for scrap. So much damage has been to this place, and it ruins things for everyone. I hope someone turns in the thief, and gets a nice reward. And, sad to say, I hope the thief suffers!!!
WARDY!!! What's up!?
Went up there a few weeks ago and everything was pretty much accessible minus Ryon Hall. Burned the daylight showing my friends around and finally got into the morgue. The only freaky thing was that while we were in the morgue a white pickup truck drove by outside but other than that we didn't encounter any patrols or anything. My first time being there during the day in a long time and it's become real clear where most of the access points are. Got into the what was left of the male backward but didn't really want to explore it until I saw access to the female ward and it was too darn late in the day. I think I know where that freaky room in the tunnels is and it'll be my target next time I get up there. Sucks that BX1983 got picked up by the police, I think it's so petty they want to arrest and book people for their curiosity but in all fairness we are breaking the law. How did you guys get caught? By the Grace of God I am always fortunate to just miss patrols. I didn't want to believe they were actually arresting people but that really sucks. We take a risk and we are trespassing but I always do it with respect and pure curiosity... And some thrill. Lets not forget that the authorities are protecting us from the inherent danger and by doing what they're doing they are protecting the town and preserving what is left of this amazingly alluring relic. Plus they're only doing their jobs. What happened after they booked you? Do you pay a fine and leave? Sit in jail? I wonder if they ever caught the scrappers. Most of the copper is stripped out of the place.
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