The hospital first opened its doors in 1904 in Norwich, Connecticut. It was built in an idyllic location chosen for its therapeutic properties overlooking the River Thames.
The Norwich Insane Asylum was built isolated from civilization, which worked to its benefit as it began to grow during its early years sprouting new buildings that accompanied the original construction (see aerial view of the hospital here). These new construction projects included patient wards, staff cottages, laboratories and workshops. All of the structures were interconnected by a large network of underground utility tunnels. These tunnels transported electricity, hot water, and patients to various areas on the grounds. The hospital remained self-sufficient, almost like a small town, with its own power plant, pump house, working farm, kitchen, theater and church.
Over 3,000 patients and 1,000 employees were residents on the asylum grounds in the 1950’s.
Slowly patients began to leave Norwich State Hospital due to deinstitutionalization and it permanently closed its doors in 1996. Since then time has basically stood still on the property with a few exceptions. Currently there is talk about converting the grounds into a theme park, but nothing has been set in stone.
After a long tedious drive we leave the car in a commuter parking lot close to the buildings. Ever the vigilant group of explorers we notice a State Trooper making his rounds and dive into the forest for cover. Luckily we outsmarted the police yet again and after regrouping walk along the Thames River for a few hundred feet. We finally see the abandoned pump house looming in the distance and decide to make this our entryway into the campus.
This site has a reputation for being well guarded, well patrolled, and does not take kindly to trespassers. I am always on edge when exploring across the Atlantic and the numerous “State Property – No Trespassing” signs that litter the grounds did not bode well for my paranoia. Instead of exposing ourselves above ground to security and prying eyes, we decided to take the underground route through the utility tunnels.
Using the tunnels we explored many buildings without ever being forced to go outside. This method of travel was soon confirmed to be the safest. On our first attempt to venture outside we were only a few feet away from a security officer in a black uniform. Fortunately he didn’t look our way and we quickly receded back into the tunnel network. For a while we hid in the abandoned theater so we could look around the campus without being seen.
This encounter with security dampened our spirits and made our visit a whole lot shorter than we would have liked. We made our grande exit through the empty chapel, this allowed us to avoid walking back through the forest. As we were walking back to the commuter lot to pickup our car we noticed the State Trooper had been watching us as we suspiciously walked down the road. I wonder where we went to and were coming back from?!
Archive document introducing a new therapy (click to enlarge):
Special thanks to Dr. Bob for sharing the old postcards.
Looks like I'm a few years to late to make urban exploration into my hobby. I live in Germany (from my point of view no good country for urban exploration anyway) and can't travel that far and even if I'll stay close to Germany it would be hard. But looks like there would be no point in it anyway since the most good places are demolished or there locations are hard to find
its all gone the beast is dead!!!!!
Would someone please let me know what's left and how to get in? I'm going to take work off and plan a trip soon if it's still work it!! Thanks! firstname.lastname@example.org
it's play time........
Danielle are the Doctors houses still there?
I was last there in 2013 and would love to photograph the doctors houses.
its been to long
feels forever ago that i was stationed at the base near the hospital. now im out of the military and loving life!!! was thinking about this place today and figured id stop by this old website to say hi and hows everyone doing? the conversations we used to have on here were so intense!!! so i saw on Facebook somewhere that they are tearing it down!? what a shame. is seaside sanatorium still around? sparkles how ya been?
I'm dying with this place.
All but a handful of buildings have been demolished in recent years. The few that remain are in the process of being torn down. The administration building has been sealed up for future preservation. Another great asylum bites the dust
what is the current status of the property, where is the best place to get in, coolest shit to see, are the tunnels sealed now. please shoot me an email at email@example.com
this place definitely looks awesome.
I want to find out if the Matthew Naab was a relative of my family.
Hey i wanna go check this place out but i wanna check out the doctor homes and the other side of the road got any info for me......
Is this place still there and would I be able to get to it to take pictures or is there security?
Yes some of the buildings are still there,and all the drs cottages are still there, up the road up a private driveway, but they have started knocking buildings down, prob 3 or 4 this past year, I live 9 houses away from the hospital, if you ever come back make sure you visit the old doctors homes , they are beautiful homes, filled with old furniture and left behind belongings! They plan to have all the buildings gone with in the next 2 years, if that helps!
I'd like to find records of patiences that were attmitted there can anyone help me with patience records.
I went a total of three times. We went the long way around went past the chapel and into the woods and ended up coming oout on the train tracks. Walked a little bit further and came in threw the back, the first building we came by we saw a shadowy figure in a window on the upper floor. There are lights and cameras everywhere, but in this spot there were no lights. We walked all along the back portion of it and came up to the ball field and ditched back under the fence. the last time we went as we got out and was walking back to the commuter lot, there were about 5 or 6 people out with flash lights looking for us. Almost didnt make it, This place is crazy haunted, and very unsafe. But also very spooky, felt eyes on us the whole time
I really hope not, last time I was there it was mostly leveled, but there are certainly still enough buildings there to make a trip worth it for me, I should be going there really soon to see the damage this month.
I was just wondering has it all gone now? Duffy
Brigham is gone, that was my favorite building. I don't know if anybody noticed, or cares anymore...
Looking to go also to check it out. Very much into checking these places out. Im in danielson not far. Not a amateur when it comes to checking out locked off places. Email me if you wanna go too. Prepared todo whatever it takes to get in but not trying to destroy anything. In it for the history and pictures. Not5mrh@gmail.com
I drove by the other night and saw a group of kids running through the clearing by the road a little ways up past the cemetary. I wonder if they were running from security?
I moved to this area and got interested in going inside. I would like to know if it is still possible to get in. Please email me back at firstname.lastname@example.org Thank you!
Does nobody post on here anymore? All the good people are gone.
I recently moved to the area and drove by this one day. I've since been hooked on the idea of getting inside. You seem to have the most current info on the property. Is it still possible to sneak in? Please email me at email@example.com
wow the same old story
So, thanks for the apology. I think you know the people who you should really be sorry to. And to Paul, I love you, but you're an ass. I never hung out with him. Only Chris and you knew about that. We had coffee and went to the library. I'm sick of all the shit that's been started on here over the past what, 4 years now? Anyways, it's you I'm with so chill out.
And what exactly are you sorry for? I'm curious...
soooooo it looks like you all have been having fun on here! ive been combing over some old photos of the place. im in the good ol chi town now. about to get out of the military. cant wait! theres an awesome place you guys should check out, its called naval hospital great lakes. it was this old naval hospital they built in 1960, used it till about 3 years ago and decided to tear it down. i remember being in that place and just feeling all the death and longing to get out of there. i remember when i was there the galley used to be a morgue. lol talk about eating with the dead! but i tell you what they had the best food ever!! anyways its met the wrecking ball, ive been watching it and its just amazing to see! besides all that, something i wanted to get off my chest, Sparkles, i just wanted to apologize for all the shit i put you through years ago, im a different person now, a better person. i was not a good person back then. and im sorry for that. i hope you and paul are doing well! things are great here! anyways, i should be out this summer, and then onto freedom!!! question, i hear they are ripping down norwich state hospital, anybody have a timeling on that and whos footing the bill and what they are going to do with her yet?
What's up guys? Am I the only one that hasn't given up on the old girl?
Hey guys just letting you know I just completed two series of video's on YouTube. One is on Kings Park and one is on Hudson in HD. You can find them by searching the username "bikercrze1" or just follow either of these links to the playlists. I have two series of Kings Park but one is older.
Hudson River State Hospital:
Kings Park Psychiatric Center Series 1
Kings Park Psychiatric Center Series 2
I knew I smelled something...!
Check with the state library in Hartford, for info..
The risk/reward ratio for doing the wich these days, just isn't worth it.. some of the best buildings are gone, all the interesting stuff is gone, the tunnels are done and they do a pretty good job at sealing up the ins and outs, now. Basically you have to go outside between buildings, and hope you can find a way in, before someone rolls around. They can hit you with criminal trespass, and might nowadays.
I'm not saying it's impossible, or even all that hard to do... just not really worth it.. If you haven't been...well, it's too late to see what the wich was all about. Not at all the same experience it used to be..
Can anyone tell me how to track down if my Great aunt may have been in this facility in 1934.
can't fin much on her after 1930 census. thanks.
Well I am very interested in seeing these buildings as I have been researching about the history since I drove past in a couple months ago and it caught my eye so quickly. I would love to find a way to check it out if anyone on here has done so and knows how to and would like to be a guide for me. I am new to the area and I love historical sites and my understanding is that this hospital has a bunch of history behind it, whether or not it is actually haunted I am very interested in at least checking it out before they take down all the beautiful buildings and the history that goes with it. If there's anyone interested in showing me the ropes please let me know firstname.lastname@example.org
so yea the real truth is it is called the norwich state hospital for the insane. the whole warson asylum thing was a lie used to protect this places identity. as of now there are plans of turning the hospital into a park. if that gets approved, then security will most likely be increased, so explore now. i will update as new info comes in as i live just a mile down the road from the hospital!
Has anybody else been to see the theater in it's sad state?
That face in the window is the ghost of Pearl. Y'all don't know bout that though... The real name of this place is warson asylum, I saw it on vh1s celebrity paranormal project.
Hey don't take offense it was meant as a joke mostly blowing off steam about all the demolition going on. I have been exploring 10 plus years and have guided people like the fine folks at Urban Legends or "Urban Lens" whos site is sadly not up anymore.
so i just went last night, we had to jump the fence that surrounds the whole asylum, theres lights everywhere so the whole grounds are lit up, they put up some cameras that watch the grounds. & getting into the buildings can be hard, they boarded up all the windows to be able to get in and but concrete slabs in front of all the doors, we were there for at least 2 hours and did not encounter any law enforcement, it's just hard to find a way in, the place is haunted tho a rock was thrown out of no where at a window and the glass shattered. My advice don't go on the weekend, wear dark clothes and scale the tree line instead of walking through the field.
oh and there are plans of demolishing it.
Yes i have noticed that face in the window on the last picture in the photo gallery very very strange .I thought i was the only one that seen it .I guess im not crazy or maybe we are both seeing things.
What pictures? Ya have to share it...
does ANYONE NOTICE the face of a woman in the window or am i just seeing things???
I heard Norwich is super haunted. I'm scared of ghosts! Will someone hold my hand, and walk me through the salmon building?
I'll be at the commuter lot Saturday, at 9:30.
You are a genius.. I mean..I never even thought of something like that. Back when we were all thinking about ways to explore the site and everything..I had never thought once about bringing a backpack full of spray-paint and crow bars. I doubt that when someone gets caught like that..they'd even wonder what you were up to! Most of the older buildings are ruined inside and out. If you were to "STOP" they're progress in demo ..you'd be left exploring a building from the 90's.. Open your eyes..there's hundreds of sites in CT to explore. Unless you have a problem understanding how to use your bus pass.
Does anybody know what's going on at Norwich? It's been awhile.
More people should try and be like me! The world would be a better place!
that was so cold not everybody is as perfect as you Paul
Learn to use spell check then we can tell you!
i was just wondering how to gain access to the property leagly without tresspassing i would like to go there for rescearch etc if anyone has any information please email me email@example.com it would be very much apreaciated (sorry im not very good at spelling)
wow jam just going to say it sparkles your right. but the one thing we can do is just sit back an remember the good days we all have had at ash
Well said Paul. It's people like them that make it hard for people like us. No one on here approves of vandalism of any kind. Something like letting air out of tires, sure. That's just being a pain in the ass, but destroying things? What do you mean "Kids"? You're the one acting like a childish douche. We may have our little rifs sometimes but I'm pretty sure that everyone on here agrees with what I'm saying. No one wants to see her torn down, but lets face it, they are going to get it done no matter what. Nothing we can do to change that. I hope something happens on site so it can all be pinned on you. Even if you had nothing to do with it. That would totally make my day. Asshole.
Dude you make retards sound smart. Go be a fucking criminal elsewhere. I hope you get pinched for all vandalism on site. Do you even realize you posting in public? Please kill yourself asap..
Shadow, good deal man hit it up while you still can and get some pics we need pics! Also remember what I said if these kids on here would quit wasting time typing stupid shit and mob up and just ransack the site. Bring a paintball gun and put oatmeal in the gas tanks, spray paint the heavy equipment windows, put small rocks in the tires to let the air out quietly, just plain destroy all the gear so they have no choice but to stop operations. You know what kind of money they would lose being out of the game for a day or two? Seriously shit we did back in the day as kids I mean if your going to go there you might as well have a little fun right?
I'm.planning on going very soon. If anyone is interested in meeting up there. Email me. I know prop very well and have very strong skills. Also keep daily tabs on events at facility including demolition and forums. Hope to see you there. Email firstname.lastname@example.org
Yeah, this suuuuuuucks!
They're taking out the salmon building. Its almost gone.
I love writing stories like that. They're fun.
Earle Stedman and Ray Brigham went Woodward to go fishing at Stribling pond. They spent Awl day enjoying the Pondview, sitting by the remains of an old Power house. Ray had a Bell on the end of his rod, that he had made in the Maintenance shop of the Trade school where worked- though he usually worked in the Administration building. Earle was a doctor, who always flirted with the Nurses in the Lab: weather they were Male or Female employees. Both men worked loads of O.T., so this trip was long overdue.
The Bell on Rays rod began to ring! "I think its a big one" he said. "I love big ones" said Earle, with a wink to Ray. Rays face began to turn White, as he sometimes felt uncomfortable by Earle's advances towards him. "Arrrgh, shut up Earle!" he groaned. "Haha ok-ok" chuckled Earle.
Ray struggled to land the beast, the drag whining as the fish fought to regain its freedom. "Keep your tip up!" shouted Earle. "Heh, that's what she said" giggled ray. Finally, after fifteen grueling minutes- the monster began to tire, and came ashore. A forty-three and a half pound Salmon! Ray was so excited that he accidentally got the hook stuck in his thumb. Earle, being a doctor, quickly got it out using a Cutter to snip the barb- then push the rest of the hook back out.
The two men had to Gallup back to the Lodge as quickly as possible. They wanted to get the fish into the Kettle, and have a surprise dinner ready for their friends Seymour Bryant and Mitchell Lippitt- who had spent the day hiking, and Mitchell's brother Sam. Sam had set off to explore the area by himself. Earle and Ray decided to do some Laundry, as their clothes reeked of fish. On the way back to their Cottage, they stopped at the Greenhouse to grab some vegetables for supper.
About an hour later, a delicious feast lay on the table as Seymour and Mitchell arived, shortly follwed by Sam. Sam walked in and said: "that smells fantastic! I found these boxes of ration crackers, that'll go well with that soup." The others asked: "what did you do all day Sam? Where did you find these fine ration crackers?"
Sam grinned, saying, I just splored the shit outta Norwich State Hospital all day long, while you guys were walking around... holding your Dix!
It's peanut butter jelly time, peanut butter jelly time!
Anyways, This one time at band camp....
I hate when that happens!
I'm gonna make a peanut buttah n jelly sandwich now, but I won't eat it....til later.
One time I fell down and my shoes fell off.
I just saved a bunch of money on auto insurance by just not givin a fuck.
lol i have a male not a female dog an i would never choke myself an iam no longer working at avcrad i went back to working on car i got a great job at a ford shop in norwich an the pay is great to
OK so you told me that your dog got sick on my hoodie and everything before. Lemme guess, it gave birth on it now. Anyways whatever. Keep it along with my scarf that you prolly use to choke yourself while you jerk off. My baby works for sliplknot so I can get a shit ton more swag so I'm not worried about it. Btw, grammar was atrocious in your last post. None of it really made any sense. Hope all is well. Have fun sitting in your little shack Mr.Avcrad.
Ummmmmm salmon....bagels schmere ....
look when i said someone got put in there place it was a knock at the person doing it not you sparkle because were not for that an about the hooded i no longer have but i would pay you the difference if you wish that's all i can do for you sorry
So, salmon is pretty much cleaned out, and they have work lights on in there now.
So long, beautiful...
Boo Ya! You got bombed! Haha...get em Sparky. Maybe I can see you soon?
Dude, you're one to talk. You get put in your place all the time. You're also like the biggest liar on here, which is hard to accomplish considering the other lies that have been being told on here for years. I'm glad too see you finally figured out how to use spell check in the past 2 years. NOT. Little tip, if you're going to talk sh*t about someone, make sure you don't give them something to talk sh*t about back. Makes you look dumb.
Btw, I want my f*ckin hoodie back. Have a good day John.
glade to hear your back an hope your trip to nsh goes well
I think manafort sold that kids body on eBay already, so its all good.
No, but if you read that article; it sounded like he probably kicked rocks off to Florida.
There's no missing kid inside! I'm pretty sure they would have smelled his carcas by now! Bomb good to see spelling and grammar are not important in your life. But then again you would need to actually have a life first which obviously you don't. I'm back in CT by the way and headed down soon...
He's still missing as of January- peep it: www.wtnh.com
I'm scared I'll run across his remains when traipsing through NSH.
wow someone just got put in there place is it finally becoming fun in here again i hop so !!!!!!
Tuff talk there sparkles. I may have joked around a bit here and there, from time to time about the status of the Wich, but was fairly blatant about it when I did. If anyone believed things like "sniper towers" and "electric fence, omg" then thats their own fault. Don't get all pissy! Its called joking around.
So, let's make some progress, shall we? Look, sure you CAN still go, however- if you don't know the place very, very well and dont do this kind of thing all the time...and havent been keeping up on the changes going on there; you're gonna have a very shitty time! There is absolutely no more tunneling it from building to building. They cut through the tops of the tunnels, and put huge steel plates between buildings. They have also done a great job sealing buildings with huge slabs of concrete and fresh boards. Its such a pain in the ass now, you have no idea! Not worth getting arrested, for sure!
I was....theoretically, just there a couple days ago..(you know- because that would be illegal, and I don't condone that sort of thing). If you check manaforts website, they're selling things from nsh- like the cell doors from salmon, and some of those dressers, with the mirrors on top.
The next buildings going down are supposed to be: salmon, awl, the chapel and the theater.
I heard that they were still in the building..but drove by yesterday, and they had a boxtruck up against salmon- so I'd say they're gone, and probably any other interesting stuff that was in there.
Sorry Sparkles, what mcguilicutty said is true. Be sure to enter where the powerhouse used to be when you go back, and wave to the cameras once you're beyond the fence.
is a lying douche. DO NOT believe anything he says. He's been posting random bs on here forever now.
And you're an idiot because we know who you are.
Has anyone been recently? I have not been in the area for a while now. Can anyone tell me what's been going on on the property? Sparkles_Believes@yahoo.com
I drove by the other day and noticed that the Norwich portion of the hospital appears to be for sale. Can anybody shed some light on this?
Like I said when it came to Danvers and North Hamptom the developers destroying these places only have there names and reputations to live by and in my mind they will always be pieces of crap! they are ruining works of art all over New England for nasty looking shabby huts that will last maybe a fraction of how long these places have. As much as I would love to do it legally my military duties keep me occipied in the drity dirty south so everyone post crap around facebook show pics of dead birds on the grounds and blame them for it destroy their name! That is how we can back at them. If you are really bold go dump your used oil on the propery then call the DEC and report the mess so the developer has to clean it up! Dislike security as much as I do? Check out our video on youtube just search "kings Park Psychiatric center part one intro" there are 5 parts and we mock the hell outta security!
I will miss the summer days walking down the train tracks to NSH . Miss the days of sitting in the Theatre high above watching the guards drive back and forth clueless. Sad she has to go
Fucking people trashing shit, they ruined it to a certain extent a while ago, and are ruining for the people who just want to see and photograph the place once more. I cannot express how sad, and angry I will be if I cannot get at least one more trip there before it goes down.
Well to all the people who have left comments.. Im so glad im not the only one!!!! Ive been in a few buildings and took a few memoribilia ? peices for myself. If you respect the place theres a way. If you dont , dont even bother. Its scary! I admit. The people were not just let out on the street, they went to middletown. The last place that holds the crimminaly insane. As for NSH the bridge you cross over from the highway has a cat walk,if come from across river, its locked but if your an experienced climer you can make it. That will take you to the train tracks on hospital side, (best way to get in.)tracks go all the way to norwich train station you can park there if you know where the bustation is and make a day trip outta it. Take tracks all the way to NSH. My mom and dad use to cross the cat walk all the time as kids. My mother grew up right down the street and my sister rented the house across from the commuter parking lot. So I know a littlle. Across were my sister lived I took my metal detector, found silver diper clasps, brass door knobs, theres and old road in the woods, across from commuter parking , and behind parks place thats a lil breakfast nook. Back in those woods was the old REAL state hospital, if you hike you can find it. Its all demolished, but underneith the ground its all still there.my father and I went and his stories are amazing, for instance on the river is the best way in. Under the bridge. If you park at davids is your best bet./ plan on going in the wee morning hrs. best time for a good sunrise on the thames. Walk the tracks but beware there are houses that still people reside in but they have nothing to do with state property. On same land but nothing to do with hospital. If you can find the old oil storage containers the morgue is right there.!!!!! people are still in glass jars bone dust but its people! The creamatory is on the water and theres plenty of ways on the tracks stay away from the road.!!!!!!!!!!! theres always a way. And I understand about all the asbestos and lead, and stuff, ghost hunters did a film on norwich insame asylem, watch it!!!! Google it, you wont beleive you eyes. This site is a love of mine, and in america land of the free, and be free we should be able to go and walk around, why not make it a museum and put it back to its original state , fix it up if you cant knock it down, get some money back into the community,. I would love to hear the history, and say WOWOW I was there that place is CrAzYYYYYYY! lol... the buildings are so beautiful i dont want them to go. Thats a part of norwichs history. LEAVE THE BUILDINGS ALONE! ITS a GRAVE SITE FOR THOSE WHO NEVER MADE IT OUT! THE CEMATARY PROVES IT GO CHECK OUT THE GRAVES !!! there are those who died in the tunnels from tourcher chained n beaten i wanna protest there were alot of murders on that site, and it should become a resting place for history and for those who cant tell there story, should start with across the street and start digging for artifact's and all of us should get together and protest this stupid plan in preston to make condos and studios for the rich i hope the ghosts of nsh haunt them for eternity, ...... I have alot of infor if anyone wants to go we can! text. me. NSH IM IN. to set up a time and meeting spot im for those who are really interested. I dont wanna go alone. I know what haunts that place i have felt it seen it and it will forever haunt me. THe fire dept is burning the buildings and doing drills there, WE CANT LET THEM DO THIS WE MUST PROTEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP DESTROYING HISTORY!!!! its ILLEGAL!!! THINK ABOUT IT. WOULD YOU DESTORY HISTORY??????? rACHEl 8^0 8606398560. my bf and I love this place. hope to see you soon/
Yes, yes they are watching the cams.. For those who don't know: the state police barracks are about a minute away. That is who comes to deal with you when you get caught. They WILL bring dogs and multiple troopers!!
Apparently, very recently- someone trashed some of the demo crews equipment. They are not amused by this, and want the police to arrest anyone caught! It may seem like no one is around and all, but as I said, the cams are live and being watched now!
Norwich is done, do not go! People have been getting caught!!! I know that to you, I'm just some random person on teh interwebz..but you have to trust me on this- been doing these places for a while- DO NOT try the wich right now! Not sure if they remotely watch the cams now or what-will find out and keep you fine folks posted.
i'm starting up my own urbex magazine and i could use some help with locations in the tri-state area. always down to collaborate with fellow explorers, would love to make this happen over the next few months. e-mail me at email@example.com if this interests you
Hey, I'm interested in visiting. I'm really interested in photography and bring my camera everywhere i go. I dont know about the security there or that isnt there but if anyone has more info or wants to go and willing to meet with a group im all for it.
email me at firstname.lastname@example.org or search me on facebook with that email address and msg me there.
im dying to get in there. one of my friend went but he hikes through the woods, hopped a fence and ran until he saw a clearing. if anyone has gone and is willing to go again please let me know.
hey i havent seen security there in months i go by alot im def interested in a trip if anybody is going email me or chat here
Its good to pop on and see new excited explorers attempting to breech the NSH... we plan on a walk by soon. Its been 2 years since the site brought us together ... anyway good to see...
The construction co. handles security now for the most part, and the state police. Then I think there's still normal sec on the norwich side of the street. Can't remember which co. though, as there have been so many. Pretty sure its Madison or ssc though.
Does anybody know what security firm patrols this property?
I'm looking to meet some people to visit Norwich with. Maybe some other sites too. None of the people I hang around with are really interested and I'm not exactly at a level that I'd wanna go myself. Yes? Pl0x?
Just so everyone knows: there are serious cameras now, and the tunnels are completely sealed between buildings (steel plates).
I wish I was joking...
And so the cycle begins, all over again..
wyo4x4 id like to talk to you about your experiences on the property. do you have an email?
Hello all, I have some good pointers for anyone wanting to get on the site. I have not been to the larger areas or buildings but I and a friend have gotten in several times. There is an access area in the security fence which is easy to find if anyone is interested. Thank you for the recent relevant posts. Have a good New Year!
So no sammich then?
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